Highlights
- Patrick Kane - Shootout goal against Detroit April 7th 2012
Apr 10 2012 07:33 AM Last day of the 2011-12 regul... - Viktor Stalberg blows past D and scores 3/18/12
Mar 30 2012 05:41 PM Viktor Stalberg turns on the... - Jonathan Toews blows past Carter and scores 2/18/12
Feb 28 2012 08:33 PM Jonathan Toews flies around J... - Patrick Kane Superman breakaway @ 2012 ASG Skills
Feb 12 2012 03:33 PM Watch Patrick Kane's... - Patrick Kane exploding puck breakaway @ 2012 ASG Skills
Feb 12 2012 03:33 PM Watch Patrick Kane's... - Corey Crawford comes up with big glove 1/24/12
Jan 26 2012 03:30 PM Corey Crawford makes a fantas... - Sharks @ Blackhawks 01/15/12
Jan 17 2012 11:17 PM San Jose Sharks @ Chicago Bla... - Andrew Shaw 1st career goal 1/5/12
Jan 07 2012 09:13 PM Andrew Shaw's first caree... - Jimmy Hayes 1st career goal 1/2/12
Jan 07 2012 09:09 PM In just his second NHL game,... - Jonathan Toews scores on a penalty shot (Fan Shot)
Jan 05 2012 01:44 AM Jonathan Toews scores on a pe...
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Against the Flames the Hawks had no where to go but up. It was an obvious improvement out of the gate while they peppered Mikka Kiprusoff with 13 shots while Ray Emery only saw 6 pucks chucked his way. Unfortunately, one of them was a prime chance with Olli Jokinen finding enough space at the top of the left circle to blast the puck over Emery's shoulder. Although it was disheartening to see the Blackhawks down a goal with such dominance, they did not fold immediately. Patrick Kane found a pinching Brent Seabrook with precision late in the period and made no mistake with a quick release to beat Kiprusoff.
The 2nd period was a polar opposite of momentum shift. The Flames came out and dominated, slamming Emery with 16 shots while the Blackhawks only mustered 6 against Kiprusoff. Of course, at this point you can guess where this is going. Jay Boumeester was able to solve Ray Emery on the power-play late in the period to put the Flames ahead 2-1, which would stand as the game-winner.
The final frame wasn't much improvement either with Jarome Iginla slipping away from the defense to put the nail in the coffin.
The worst part about watching this game was the tension. It's clear that things just aren't going their way at the moment, but their identity has seemed to have been lost in the shuffle. Who are the Blackhawks?
To see success again, the Blackhawks must find the answer to that question. It starts with simplifying things, keeping things loose, and keeping an even head. At this point, they don't fall under any of these definitions, if anything it's the exact opposite. With every loss they have complicated things further, play too tight, and ride a wave of emotion--which for the most part has been negative.
Two words: Chill. Out.
BLACKHAWKS THREE STARS OF THE GAME
1. Patrick Kane
2. Brent Seabrook
3. Jonathan Toews
YOUR CALL
This may come as a shock to some and this may create some disgust and bad feed back but im saying it.
This team is worse than last years. Long enough into the season to say it now. Its my opinion and i stand by it until the holes are properly fixed and the system. You can feel it. Still a good team and lots to work with but its time to get serious. Not a whole lot of hockey left in the regular season. Its been a real fast season.
There are a few reasons for that but for a team that can't use the excuse of a cup hangover this year is it really better than last years team? I certainly don't think so.
Bowman has some real work to do now. No more of this Brunnette, Kruger, Morrison type garbage. You stripped this team of Campbell, Ladd, Brouwer, Versteeg, Buff and you haven't really replaced many of them. Seriously you haven't. You think you have but you have actually gut the roster depth of this team over the last 2 years and have replaced it with average to below average roster players. Esp the blueline...you really fucked up our blueline and our team defense..really you did. Q hasn't helped but honestly which defensive forward is yours which you can crown? Which blueliner is yours that you can crown? GET SOMETHING DONE AND TAKE THE GAMBLE..A REAL GAMBLE!!
the Core is the reason why this team still has a winning record. It seriously is. None of those core guys are yours. None of them. Toews is responsible for about 12 points just himself when he was on his tare of the league. He really is.
Im starting to slowly jump on the Q crucifixion wagon also. Im not fully on but my foot is resting on the side boards. Bolland finally gets into the game as a second line center 7 minutes into the 3rd period? Go fuck yourself Q.
This team is worse than last years. Long enough into the season to say it now. Its my opinion and i stand by it until the holes are properly fixed and the system. You can feel it. Still a good team and lots to work with but its time to get serious. Not a whole lot of hockey left in the regular season. Its been a real fast season.
There are a few reasons for that but for a team that can't use the excuse of a cup hangover this year is it really better than last years team? I certainly don't think so.
Bowman has some real work to do now. No more of this Brunnette, Kruger, Morrison type garbage. You stripped this team of Campbell, Ladd, Brouwer, Versteeg, Buff and you haven't really replaced many of them. Seriously you haven't. You think you have but you have actually gut the roster depth of this team over the last 2 years and have replaced it with average to below average roster players. Esp the blueline...you really fucked up our blueline and our team defense..really you did. Q hasn't helped but honestly which defensive forward is yours which you can crown? Which blueliner is yours that you can crown? GET SOMETHING DONE AND TAKE THE GAMBLE..A REAL GAMBLE!!
the Core is the reason why this team still has a winning record. It seriously is. None of those core guys are yours. None of them. Toews is responsible for about 12 points just himself when he was on his tare of the league. He really is.
Im starting to slowly jump on the Q crucifixion wagon also. Im not fully on but my foot is resting on the side boards. Bolland finally gets into the game as a second line center 7 minutes into the 3rd period? Go fuck yourself Q.
too many glaring fucking holes to even begin. Keith is getting too much ice, and making too many fucking mistakes. Kruger is not a third line winger, to be honest, he should be in Rockford. Why isn't Hayes on the third line wing? And why is Bolland centring Kruger and Shaw? If we picked up Morrison to be a "great depth center with vet leadership" then why isn't he centering the fucking rookies?? Bolland was playing great on the second line. Like it or not, he's the second line center!!
Defensive depth?? Don't act like we have it! If we did, Keith and Seabrook wouldn't be playing half the fucking game!!
I like John Scott, and he's productive with 4 minutes a night, but if you want to give him those minutes, then do it as a fourth line forward, and NOT A DEFENSEMEN!!!
Q is fucked, and Stan is fucked for thinking these big name played out old men can replace Ladd, Versteeg, etc.
Montador for 3 more years?
everything is too inconsistant right now, but I would feel alot better with:
Stalberg-Toews-Kane
Hossa-Bolland-Sharp
Shaw-Morrison-Hayes
than I would with:
Stalberg-Toews-Kane
Hossa-Morrison-Sharp
Shaw-Bolland-Kruger
this is just a minor change, that makes a huge fucking difference.
and the D pairs?
Leddy-Keith
Seabrook-Hammer
FUCKING RETARDED!!! even if he doesn't want to play Seabrook and Keith together, split it up so its OFD-DFD
Leddy-Seabrook
Keith-Hammer
THAT WOULD BE BETTER!!
you wanna mentor Leddy, play him with Seabrook!! Better mentor, and better defensemen.
what else is there to say? I'm tired, but in a fucking week we have gone from being a Stanley Cup contender, to a potential playoff contender.
Defensive depth?? Don't act like we have it! If we did, Keith and Seabrook wouldn't be playing half the fucking game!!
I like John Scott, and he's productive with 4 minutes a night, but if you want to give him those minutes, then do it as a fourth line forward, and NOT A DEFENSEMEN!!!
Q is fucked, and Stan is fucked for thinking these big name played out old men can replace Ladd, Versteeg, etc.
Montador for 3 more years?
everything is too inconsistant right now, but I would feel alot better with:
Stalberg-Toews-Kane
Hossa-Bolland-Sharp
Shaw-Morrison-Hayes
than I would with:
Stalberg-Toews-Kane
Hossa-Morrison-Sharp
Shaw-Bolland-Kruger
this is just a minor change, that makes a huge fucking difference.
and the D pairs?
Leddy-Keith
Seabrook-Hammer
FUCKING RETARDED!!! even if he doesn't want to play Seabrook and Keith together, split it up so its OFD-DFD
Leddy-Seabrook
Keith-Hammer
THAT WOULD BE BETTER!!
you wanna mentor Leddy, play him with Seabrook!! Better mentor, and better defensemen.
what else is there to say? I'm tired, but in a fucking week we have gone from being a Stanley Cup contender, to a potential playoff contender.
I never thought I'd miss Kopecky.
Didn't see the game again as the band I'm in was playing a gig down in the city.
Sounds like I didn't miss a thing...
Sounds like I didn't miss a thing...
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Time to be concerned, people.
Time to be concerned, people.
<--- Concerned and frustrated are two words that come to mind.
Its times like this were we all have to hold each other and say its ok....come on who needs a warm hug.....
Not so optimistic anymore?
By the way Rex, I completely agree with your line suggestions. Was thinking the exact same thing myself since getting Morrison. My only lingering thought is to give Frolik another go on the 3rd line for a while, but Bickell is done. Was done a year ago, but we still have to watch him play.
I also agree with the D-pairings whole heartedly.
Emery should have been the starter for a while now.
Yes, Kitchen seems to be a real problem, and Q has no control over his team, and lacks any idea of how to use his players, or which players for that matter. Total lack of a system, and no consistency.
Many players are now underperforming under his watch. Could just be a bad spell, but we all saw it coming, and it just serves to expose holes that have been around for 2 seasons, and even more in some cases.
By the way Rex, I completely agree with your line suggestions. Was thinking the exact same thing myself since getting Morrison. My only lingering thought is to give Frolik another go on the 3rd line for a while, but Bickell is done. Was done a year ago, but we still have to watch him play.
I also agree with the D-pairings whole heartedly.
Emery should have been the starter for a while now.
Yes, Kitchen seems to be a real problem, and Q has no control over his team, and lacks any idea of how to use his players, or which players for that matter. Total lack of a system, and no consistency.
Many players are now underperforming under his watch. Could just be a bad spell, but we all saw it coming, and it just serves to expose holes that have been around for 2 seasons, and even more in some cases.
im not on the fire Q bandwagon, but if it gets bad enough we have Haviland right there no doubt ready to take the next step in his pro coaching career.
i like Q still, but i like Havi better, and plus he'd prolly be able to light a better fire under the kids (BIckell, mainly...) he's coached and then the domino affect on them to those around who jumped straight to the NHL without seasoning from him (Leddy, Kruger...) will like do well, too.
i like Q still, but i like Havi better, and plus he'd prolly be able to light a better fire under the kids (BIckell, mainly...) he's coached and then the domino affect on them to those around who jumped straight to the NHL without seasoning from him (Leddy, Kruger...) will like do well, too.
What's the guarantee Havi would be better?
He already explained that part...
Not saying I agree but what more did you want?
If this losing streak continues, there's no doubt a change MUST be made and you can't fire the players.
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plus he'd prolly be able to light a better fire under the kids (BIckell, mainly...) he's coached and then the domino affect on them to those around who jumped straight to the NHL without seasoning from him (Leddy, Kruger...) will like do well, too.
Not saying I agree but what more did you want?
If this losing streak continues, there's no doubt a change MUST be made and you can't fire the players.
during the Cup run they had two periods of losses including one in march where they were beaten twice in a row by Columbus, in one allowing them 8 goals. 2-5-2 during the stretch.
Teams go through adversity every fucking year. Each and every one of them. Examples this year would be Detriot, Boston for two which were both early on.
No I'm not worried yet nor do I think they are going to fire Q, or are even near that point.
As for Haviland helping Bickell are you serious? Haviland is already here, and can work with Bickell at any time. Is that any different from Assistant to Head Coach? Bickell sucks, he needs to be gone.
Some of the onus here goes to Stan. He has players on this team who are dead weight. IE Bickell and Frolik. It's time he did his job and made some ROSTER changes.
How soon March of 2010 is forgotten.
Teams go through adversity every fucking year. Each and every one of them. Examples this year would be Detriot, Boston for two which were both early on.
No I'm not worried yet nor do I think they are going to fire Q, or are even near that point.
As for Haviland helping Bickell are you serious? Haviland is already here, and can work with Bickell at any time. Is that any different from Assistant to Head Coach? Bickell sucks, he needs to be gone.
Some of the onus here goes to Stan. He has players on this team who are dead weight. IE Bickell and Frolik. It's time he did his job and made some ROSTER changes.
How soon March of 2010 is forgotten.
I'm also and have never been a huge Q fan, nor kitchen for that matter. But I find it funny the critisism Kitchen gets but does anyone really know what he's in charge of? When you ask Q or Bowman and they explain what he's actually in charge of then explain your displeasure of him. Until then no one has a clue what he's specifically in charge of. You are guessing.
I will tell you this Q has final say on EVERY aspect with this team and always has. PP, PK, ES, they ultimately do what Q wants them to. He has complete and total final say.
I will tell you this Q has final say on EVERY aspect with this team and always has. PP, PK, ES, they ultimately do what Q wants them to. He has complete and total final say.
Watch the youtubes of the Florida PK when he was coaching there, RK. Then compare those to what the Hawks are doing. It's OBVIOUS what Kitchen is in charge of. The fucking pathetic PK. Q has final say, but I guarantee you his drinking buddy from days of yore gets pretty much carte blanche to do what he wants with the aspect he's in charge of.
Of course teams go through slumps. Nobody is arguing that. But elite teams, like Boston, and Detroit, go on SERIOUS runs. The Hawks haven't had a serious run of dominant hockey all season. Boston? Yep. Detroit? Yep. Even Nashville, St. Louis, Vancouver. All these teams have had runs of winning a good 90% of their games, and that's the reason they're up there, and the Hawks are down where they are. CONSISTENCY. Something the Hawks haven't seen in the entire time Q has been here. Are Nashville and St. Louis more talented teams than the Hawks? Very doubtful. Are they better coached teams? Absofuckinglutely.
Of course teams go through slumps. Nobody is arguing that. But elite teams, like Boston, and Detroit, go on SERIOUS runs. The Hawks haven't had a serious run of dominant hockey all season. Boston? Yep. Detroit? Yep. Even Nashville, St. Louis, Vancouver. All these teams have had runs of winning a good 90% of their games, and that's the reason they're up there, and the Hawks are down where they are. CONSISTENCY. Something the Hawks haven't seen in the entire time Q has been here. Are Nashville and St. Louis more talented teams than the Hawks? Very doubtful. Are they better coached teams? Absofuckinglutely.
Again Pez you are assuming. And even worse guessing. Again if you don't think Q is 100% in control you should just stop watching hockey.
Again there are 30 games left. Serious run, maybe they haven't hit their strides. They were 14-4-2 in December. Not a good run? Unfortunately they sit in the most talented Division in Hockey. Detroit had their slump early on. They lost 7 games in a fucking row. Nashville did something similar.
I'm not arguing with you on this you are and have always been a glass half empty. I will tell you Kitchen has NOT been running the PK all year. Haviland was for a good part, and again Q has final say on who, what and where they play at ALL TIMES!
St. Louis in certain areas, as Nashville are definitely as talented as the hawks. No fucking question.
Halak-Ellison
Weber-Suter-Rinnie-Lindback
absofuckinglutely? Not so much there buddy.
Again there are 30 games left. Serious run, maybe they haven't hit their strides. They were 14-4-2 in December. Not a good run? Unfortunately they sit in the most talented Division in Hockey. Detroit had their slump early on. They lost 7 games in a fucking row. Nashville did something similar.
I'm not arguing with you on this you are and have always been a glass half empty. I will tell you Kitchen has NOT been running the PK all year. Haviland was for a good part, and again Q has final say on who, what and where they play at ALL TIMES!
St. Louis in certain areas, as Nashville are definitely as talented as the hawks. No fucking question.
Halak-Ellison
Weber-Suter-Rinnie-Lindback
absofuckinglutely? Not so much there buddy.
Nashville is definitely as talented as the Hawks? Wow. Yeah, maybe if you completely ignore the twelve forwards on the team. Then maybe they're as talented as the Hawks. Forwards don't matter, though. I'm done with this conversation.
I have always been glass half empty(I prefer REALIST) just as you've always been a blind homer. Tit for tat I guess.
P.S. I have no idea what you're trying to prove with the Q has final say shit. Whether he does, or doesn't, it's still his fucking fault.
I have always been glass half empty(I prefer REALIST) just as you've always been a blind homer. Tit for tat I guess.
P.S. I have no idea what you're trying to prove with the Q has final say shit. Whether he does, or doesn't, it's still his fucking fault.
My question is...if everything is either Q's or Kitchen's fault....what exactly is Haviland doing or have done on the bench for everyone to love him? He's coached Bickell...so he'd get more out of him? He didn't really tear up Rockford.
Unless Havi can make the goaltending consistant or add a solid Dman, it wouldn't change anything. He sits in the coaching meetings, and probably has much the same system philosophies, or he wouldn't have been an assistant here the entire time Q has.
Unless Havi can make the goaltending consistant or add a solid Dman, it wouldn't change anything. He sits in the coaching meetings, and probably has much the same system philosophies, or he wouldn't have been an assistant here the entire time Q has.
Pez68, on 04 February 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:
Nashville is definitely as talented as the Hawks? Wow. Yeah, maybe if you completely ignore the twelve forwards on the team. Then maybe they're as talented as the Hawks. Forwards don't matter, though. I'm done with this conversation.
I have always been glass half empty(I prefer REALIST) just as you've always been a blind homer. Tit for tat I guess.
P.S. I have no idea what you're trying to prove with the Q has final say shit. Whether he does, or doesn't, it's still his fucking fault.
I have always been glass half empty(I prefer REALIST) just as you've always been a blind homer. Tit for tat I guess.
P.S. I have no idea what you're trying to prove with the Q has final say shit. Whether he does, or doesn't, it's still his fucking fault.
On the back end both Nashville and St. Louis are clearly as talented as the hawks. Not offensively but the goal, as you know, is keeping the puck out of your net.
I'd take either of those four goalies over either of the two we have. Any day of the week.
Besides you said last night you were taking the rest of the season off. Me, I'll watch knowing all teams go through slumps. If that's what you call a Homer then here I am. I've also complained about Q for a long time, it's well documented, but here, I just don't think he's totally responsible for the back end he has in front of him. No need to reply "your done with the conversation". Love ya! hahaha
pmxc12873, on 04 February 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:
My question is...if everything is either Q's or Kitchen's fault....what exactly is Haviland doing or have done on the bench for everyone to love him? He's coached Bickell...so he'd get more out of him? He didn't really tear up Rockford.
Unless Havi can make the goaltending consistant or add a solid Dman, it wouldn't change anything. He sits in the coaching meetings, and probably has much the same system philosophies, or he wouldn't have been an assistant here the entire time Q has.
Unless Havi can make the goaltending consistant or add a solid Dman, it wouldn't change anything. He sits in the coaching meetings, and probably has much the same system philosophies, or he wouldn't have been an assistant here the entire time Q has.
Logic! And exactly where the probem is for the most part, goal tending and 6 solid D men, where the #1 and #2 aren't playing half the game.
And if it's Q's sole fault when they lose, then it's his reason they've been to the Conf Finals, Won the Cup, made it to game 7 vs the Conf Champs last year....and this year's ending to be determined.
If he gets the blame for the losses...then he should get all the credit for their success.
If he gets the blame for the losses...then he should get all the credit for their success.
In all fairness R K, the Hawks have been blown out of about 15 or so games this year, and that is a lot. Blow out defined as losing by at least 2 goals where they showed little chance of fighting back.
I want the Hawks to play better hockey, but the fact is (if you have been watching every game of the season closely) they are performing like a team who should be just above .500 or so. They lost to Vancouver when they should have won, but they have won far more games that they had no right winning.
Again, with that said, I have hope for the team. I haven't liked anything Q has done since coming aboard and that includes the year the Hawks won the Cup. But, you can't argue in the face of results, because no one wants to listen. He treats some players too well, and craps on others. The Cup team had good chemistry because of the players, and not Q. Don't even get me started on the lack of decent system play.
And I have to ask, why so quick to throw Frolik under the bus when he has (besides not producing points) played hard, and looks decent enough on the ice. IMO, he is just another casualty of Q (could we not throw Kane under that same bus for similar reasons?). I truly believe the talent is here to win with, but not unless their philosophies and system are shook up.
I would like to see one more trade that brings a legit player. Maybe on D, or a 3rd line winger. Move Bolland to 2nd line, and build your 3rd line in IMO.
The heart rests with the coaching, and I agree that Q has to be the one to go. He does have the most responsibility for the way the Hawks have inconsistently performed. But, I also think it will take a further drop in the standings for it to happen. Toews and company might just kick it into gear on their own and make sure it doesn't happen, saving Q's job, but at the result of future growth.
I want the Hawks to play better hockey, but the fact is (if you have been watching every game of the season closely) they are performing like a team who should be just above .500 or so. They lost to Vancouver when they should have won, but they have won far more games that they had no right winning.
Again, with that said, I have hope for the team. I haven't liked anything Q has done since coming aboard and that includes the year the Hawks won the Cup. But, you can't argue in the face of results, because no one wants to listen. He treats some players too well, and craps on others. The Cup team had good chemistry because of the players, and not Q. Don't even get me started on the lack of decent system play.
And I have to ask, why so quick to throw Frolik under the bus when he has (besides not producing points) played hard, and looks decent enough on the ice. IMO, he is just another casualty of Q (could we not throw Kane under that same bus for similar reasons?). I truly believe the talent is here to win with, but not unless their philosophies and system are shook up.
I would like to see one more trade that brings a legit player. Maybe on D, or a 3rd line winger. Move Bolland to 2nd line, and build your 3rd line in IMO.
The heart rests with the coaching, and I agree that Q has to be the one to go. He does have the most responsibility for the way the Hawks have inconsistently performed. But, I also think it will take a further drop in the standings for it to happen. Toews and company might just kick it into gear on their own and make sure it doesn't happen, saving Q's job, but at the result of future growth.
Rk hit the nail on the head. Dead weight. That's the difference btw this team and 2 years ago...even last year.
Bowman will correct it when the chance comes. I believe the rumors that he is very very busy making the phones. Trades take time esp with so much parody in the league now. There aren't many moves out there. Hell even all the duck rumors have died now that they are winning.
Bowman will correct it when the chance comes. I believe the rumors that he is very very busy making the phones. Trades take time esp with so much parody in the league now. There aren't many moves out there. Hell even all the duck rumors have died now that they are winning.
the canadian dream, on 04 February 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:
Rk hit the nail on the head. Dead weight. That's the difference btw this team and 2 years ago...even last year.
Bowman will correct it when the chance comes. I believe the rumors that he is very very busy making the phones. Trades take time esp with so much parody in the league now. There aren't many moves out there. Hell even all the duck rumors have died now that they are winning.
Bowman will correct it when the chance comes. I believe the rumors that he is very very busy making the phones. Trades take time esp with so much parody in the league now. There aren't many moves out there. Hell even all the duck rumors have died now that they are winning.
We've been truly spoiled and ruined by the cup winning team. This Hawks team will NEVER have the talent that team had. Period. It is absolutely 100% impossible under the cap system to get even close to that team's talent and leadership. People need to get over that and start thinking realistically. EVERY team in the NHL has dead weight in the bottom of their roster. Look at the teams around the league, namely the ones at or near the Hawks' point totals. Tell me how many of those teams have these AMAZING bottom six forwards, and AMAZING third pairings that are SO much better than the Hawks' are. I would love to see it. The Hawks' bottom six and third pair is NO WORSE than any other in the NHL. Pointing at that as a reason for the struggles is a massive cop out. This team has arguably one of the strongest top 10s in the NHL.
Im not getting in to it anymore. I dont expect or never did for this team to ever match the roster in the cup run..ever. But what has been placed on the ice as far as depth goes isn't pretty with what Bowman had to work with esp after dealing Campbell.
Bowan has made mistakes as has Q. There is probably a communication issue with those two baffoons. And both are baffoons and ego ridden jack asses. I don't think they work well together and that is probably the real issues of this team. Throw in the monkey McDonut , scotty bowman and Rocky who is probably trying to be a bit more fiscal wile rising ticket prices and theres a nice messy head office with far too many egos.
Q will get fired before Bowman does so you will get your future wish (thats just a given as GMs dont get axed anymore). Its just not happening this season so the parade to fire Q isn't realistic. What is realistic is waiting to see what moves Bowman makes to help the current holes. and he will make a move I can feel it in my gutt. And this time a proper move. The Morrison, Kruger, Brunnette, O Donell quick cheap fixes are done. One of these days we will have a GM again that actually played the game at some point not one who got the job because of his last name. Kruger, Frolik, Brunette, Morrison, O' Donell. You gotta be kidding me. Those are a perfect blend of guys who aren't as skilled as we think they are and guys who are way past their expiration dates. Never a good combo. What was Bowman thinking?
Bowan has made mistakes as has Q. There is probably a communication issue with those two baffoons. And both are baffoons and ego ridden jack asses. I don't think they work well together and that is probably the real issues of this team. Throw in the monkey McDonut , scotty bowman and Rocky who is probably trying to be a bit more fiscal wile rising ticket prices and theres a nice messy head office with far too many egos.
Q will get fired before Bowman does so you will get your future wish (thats just a given as GMs dont get axed anymore). Its just not happening this season so the parade to fire Q isn't realistic. What is realistic is waiting to see what moves Bowman makes to help the current holes. and he will make a move I can feel it in my gutt. And this time a proper move. The Morrison, Kruger, Brunnette, O Donell quick cheap fixes are done. One of these days we will have a GM again that actually played the game at some point not one who got the job because of his last name. Kruger, Frolik, Brunette, Morrison, O' Donell. You gotta be kidding me. Those are a perfect blend of guys who aren't as skilled as we think they are and guys who are way past their expiration dates. Never a good combo. What was Bowman thinking?
How the fuck are they "performing like a team that should be .500 or so" when in the real world - they're 29-17-7?
Blown out 15 games or so? Losing by 2 goals is a blowout with no chance of coming back? There's only been 9 games all year where they lost by 3 or more? There's been 11 games they've outscored teams by 3 or more.
How about the fact they've only been outscored 17 times in the 3rd period all year?
Or the PP that supposedly sucks is 10th?
Or tops in scoring in the NHL?
Frolik has been given all kinds of chances. Including last year, if you've been watching games closely as you claim. What player has ever come out to say they're crapped on? Stop "assuming" players are unhappy or don't like Q. Sharp last night said - in between periods - Q is one of the best in the game in getting the best matchups. Again....let me repeat that. Sharp....an actual player on the team....says Q is one of the best in the game. Scotty Bowman...kind of a good coach in his day, if you ever heard of him....endorsed Q to come in and coach.
They are 0-4-1 in the last 5. Re fucking lax.
1st 10gms this year - 6-2-2
then...6-3-1...13pts
then...6-3-1...13pts
then...6-4-0...12pts
then...5-3-2...12pts
then...5-4-1...11pts
so far 0-2-1.....1pt
Seems kind of consistant. EVERY TEAM SLUMPS.
Det went winless in 6 ...0-5-1
Nash had a winless in 4 - 0-3-1...that included a 2-6-1
Suter - 26:29gm...Keith - 26:39
Weber - 26:18gm...Seabrook - 23:42
I don't hear NASH crying about those 2 playing that much or being worn down. Fact is...they're not. Where the Hawks are lacking...is a 4-5 guy. NOT to take minutes from poor Duncan or Brent...but to improve the bottom half. Funny thing they both played the SAME amount of minutes this year as the Cup year...difference? Depth and talent in the bottom pairings. Need to add a guy - which, when the right trade comes, they will.
When leading after 2 periods? 21-0-2...thats top 5 in the NHL
Leading after 1...11th
Trailing after 1...10th
Trailing after 2...9th
When scoring first....8th in the league
When other team scores first..8th in the league
Top scoring team in the second period...6th best in the 3rd
Overall as a team...they are +13....8th best in the league
Again. They have holes. Need to add a dman. Need consistent goaltending. Need to improve the PK. But they're not some inconsistent or underachieving team some make them out to be.
Blown out 15 games or so? Losing by 2 goals is a blowout with no chance of coming back? There's only been 9 games all year where they lost by 3 or more? There's been 11 games they've outscored teams by 3 or more.
How about the fact they've only been outscored 17 times in the 3rd period all year?
Or the PP that supposedly sucks is 10th?
Or tops in scoring in the NHL?
Frolik has been given all kinds of chances. Including last year, if you've been watching games closely as you claim. What player has ever come out to say they're crapped on? Stop "assuming" players are unhappy or don't like Q. Sharp last night said - in between periods - Q is one of the best in the game in getting the best matchups. Again....let me repeat that. Sharp....an actual player on the team....says Q is one of the best in the game. Scotty Bowman...kind of a good coach in his day, if you ever heard of him....endorsed Q to come in and coach.
They are 0-4-1 in the last 5. Re fucking lax.
1st 10gms this year - 6-2-2
then...6-3-1...13pts
then...6-3-1...13pts
then...6-4-0...12pts
then...5-3-2...12pts
then...5-4-1...11pts
so far 0-2-1.....1pt
Seems kind of consistant. EVERY TEAM SLUMPS.
Det went winless in 6 ...0-5-1
Nash had a winless in 4 - 0-3-1...that included a 2-6-1
Suter - 26:29gm...Keith - 26:39
Weber - 26:18gm...Seabrook - 23:42
I don't hear NASH crying about those 2 playing that much or being worn down. Fact is...they're not. Where the Hawks are lacking...is a 4-5 guy. NOT to take minutes from poor Duncan or Brent...but to improve the bottom half. Funny thing they both played the SAME amount of minutes this year as the Cup year...difference? Depth and talent in the bottom pairings. Need to add a guy - which, when the right trade comes, they will.
When leading after 2 periods? 21-0-2...thats top 5 in the NHL
Leading after 1...11th
Trailing after 1...10th
Trailing after 2...9th
When scoring first....8th in the league
When other team scores first..8th in the league
Top scoring team in the second period...6th best in the 3rd
Overall as a team...they are +13....8th best in the league
Again. They have holes. Need to add a dman. Need consistent goaltending. Need to improve the PK. But they're not some inconsistent or underachieving team some make them out to be.
PS the bottom six on this club is not good Pez. Leddy isn't ready yet even though we put our blinders on thinking he is, Hammer is a one trick poney, Montadore is also starting to show his age, O Donell is useless, Scott is..well hes a lot of things but hes not someone you are going to depend on. Throw in Keith who is still over-rated (good but highly over-rated) and Seabs who is probably our most dependable guy and we really don't have a defensive blueline that throws fear into the opponent. It has offensive punch when used properly but defensive hockey? meh there are far better bluelines out there right now.
Brain Campbell will always be missed (nothing we can do about that one and its the biggest impact loss). Campolli was better than any of you gave him credit for (him being a prick aside for a second) so was Sopel to be honest. Buff is another guy that has never been properly replaced. Who else am I missing from the past 3 years besides Walker who we dont even need to get into (who by the way is better than O'Donell).
Brain Campbell will always be missed (nothing we can do about that one and its the biggest impact loss). Campolli was better than any of you gave him credit for (him being a prick aside for a second) so was Sopel to be honest. Buff is another guy that has never been properly replaced. Who else am I missing from the past 3 years besides Walker who we dont even need to get into (who by the way is better than O'Donell).
pmxc12873, on 05 February 2012 - 12:21 AM, said:
How the fuck are they "performing like a team that should be .500 or so" when in the real world - they're 29-17-7?
Blown out 15 games or so? Losing by 2 goals is a blowout with no chance of coming back? There's only been 9 games all year where they lost by 3 or more? There's been 11 games they've outscored teams by 3 or more.
How about the fact they've only been outscored 17 times in the 3rd period all year?
Or the PP that supposedly sucks is 10th?
Or tops in scoring in the NHL?
Frolik has been given all kinds of chances. Including last year, if you've been watching games closely as you claim. What player has ever come out to say they're crapped on? Stop "assuming" players are unhappy or don't like Q. Sharp last night said - in between periods - Q is one of the best in the game in getting the best matchups. Again....let me repeat that. Sharp....an actual player on the team....says Q is one of the best in the game. Scotty Bowman...kind of a good coach in his day, if you ever heard of him....endorsed Q to come in and coach.
They are 0-4-1 in the last 5. Re fucking lax.
1st 10gms this year - 6-2-2
then...6-3-1...13pts
then...6-3-1...13pts
then...6-4-0...12pts
then...5-3-2...12pts
then...5-4-1...11pts
so far 0-2-1.....1pt
Seems kind of consistant. EVERY TEAM SLUMPS.
Det went winless in 6 ...0-5-1
Nash had a winless in 4 - 0-3-1...that included a 2-6-1
Suter - 26:29gm...Keith - 26:39
Weber - 26:18gm...Seabrook - 23:42
I don't hear NASH crying about those 2 playing that much or being worn down. Fact is...they're not. Where the Hawks are lacking...is a 4-5 guy. NOT to take minutes from poor Duncan or Brent...but to improve the bottom half. Funny thing they both played the SAME amount of minutes this year as the Cup year...difference? Depth and talent in the bottom pairings. Need to add a guy - which, when the right trade comes, they will.
When leading after 2 periods? 21-0-2...thats top 5 in the NHL
Leading after 1...11th
Trailing after 1...10th
Trailing after 2...9th
When scoring first....8th in the league
When other team scores first..8th in the league
Top scoring team in the second period...6th best in the 3rd
Overall as a team...they are +13....8th best in the league
Again. They have holes. Need to add a dman. Need consistent goaltending. Need to improve the PK. But they're not some inconsistent or underachieving team some make them out to be.
Blown out 15 games or so? Losing by 2 goals is a blowout with no chance of coming back? There's only been 9 games all year where they lost by 3 or more? There's been 11 games they've outscored teams by 3 or more.
How about the fact they've only been outscored 17 times in the 3rd period all year?
Or the PP that supposedly sucks is 10th?
Or tops in scoring in the NHL?
Frolik has been given all kinds of chances. Including last year, if you've been watching games closely as you claim. What player has ever come out to say they're crapped on? Stop "assuming" players are unhappy or don't like Q. Sharp last night said - in between periods - Q is one of the best in the game in getting the best matchups. Again....let me repeat that. Sharp....an actual player on the team....says Q is one of the best in the game. Scotty Bowman...kind of a good coach in his day, if you ever heard of him....endorsed Q to come in and coach.
They are 0-4-1 in the last 5. Re fucking lax.
1st 10gms this year - 6-2-2
then...6-3-1...13pts
then...6-3-1...13pts
then...6-4-0...12pts
then...5-3-2...12pts
then...5-4-1...11pts
so far 0-2-1.....1pt
Seems kind of consistant. EVERY TEAM SLUMPS.
Det went winless in 6 ...0-5-1
Nash had a winless in 4 - 0-3-1...that included a 2-6-1
Suter - 26:29gm...Keith - 26:39
Weber - 26:18gm...Seabrook - 23:42
I don't hear NASH crying about those 2 playing that much or being worn down. Fact is...they're not. Where the Hawks are lacking...is a 4-5 guy. NOT to take minutes from poor Duncan or Brent...but to improve the bottom half. Funny thing they both played the SAME amount of minutes this year as the Cup year...difference? Depth and talent in the bottom pairings. Need to add a guy - which, when the right trade comes, they will.
When leading after 2 periods? 21-0-2...thats top 5 in the NHL
Leading after 1...11th
Trailing after 1...10th
Trailing after 2...9th
When scoring first....8th in the league
When other team scores first..8th in the league
Top scoring team in the second period...6th best in the 3rd
Overall as a team...they are +13....8th best in the league
Again. They have holes. Need to add a dman. Need consistent goaltending. Need to improve the PK. But they're not some inconsistent or underachieving team some make them out to be.
Thank you. I didn't know where to start with Pow wow on that one. Blown out 15 times... ROTFL! They've been "blown out" four times that I can think of. And of those four only 3 were the entire game. They were with Edmonton the other night until the 3rd period.
Were NOT blown out in Calgary by any means.
I suppose they should in all fairness go 82-0.
If they are soooo bad now I really wonder what these people were watching 4-5 years ago. I don't remember any of these "thesis" type posts back then. Infact I don't remember many of these people back then either.
So close to the ledge it's fucking comical. Just jump already.
PuckPowWow, on 04 February 2012 - 07:50 PM, said:
Not so optimistic anymore?
By the way Rex, I completely agree with your line suggestions. Was thinking the exact same thing myself since getting Morrison. My only lingering thought is to give Frolik another go on the 3rd line for a while, but Bickell is done. Was done a year ago, but we still have to watch him play.
I also agree with the D-pairings whole heartedly.
Emery should have been the starter for a while now.
Yes, Kitchen seems to be a real problem, and Q has no control over his team, and lacks any idea of how to use his players, or which players for that matter. Total lack of a system, and no consistency.
Many players are now underperforming under his watch. Could just be a bad spell, but we all saw it coming, and it just serves to expose holes that have been around for 2 seasons, and even more in some cases.
By the way Rex, I completely agree with your line suggestions. Was thinking the exact same thing myself since getting Morrison. My only lingering thought is to give Frolik another go on the 3rd line for a while, but Bickell is done. Was done a year ago, but we still have to watch him play.
I also agree with the D-pairings whole heartedly.
Emery should have been the starter for a while now.
Yes, Kitchen seems to be a real problem, and Q has no control over his team, and lacks any idea of how to use his players, or which players for that matter. Total lack of a system, and no consistency.
Many players are now underperforming under his watch. Could just be a bad spell, but we all saw it coming, and it just serves to expose holes that have been around for 2 seasons, and even more in some cases.
I would actually be all for giving Frolik another chance, I like him. He doesn't put the puck in the net anymore, but creates chances and he plays hard in the corners, which is very vaulable
Rather have hayes than either Frolik or Bickell. Bickell should be the first out the door though. Froliks contract probably keeps him here.
Team is so predictable. You just knew the coaching staff would overemphasize the lack of defense last night(when it was mostly goaltending) and the Hawks would play afraid to make a mistake or take a chance. So I was wrong about how two of the goals went in. Still saw this coming.
P.S. Kitchen should be fired yesterday. That fucking PK is pathetic.